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Debating whether to play a Survival Hunter or Subtlety Rogue? Knowing which currently performs better DPS in PvE might help make a decision.

This page analyzes multiple simulations for both Survival Hunters and Subtlety Rogues using profiles and settings intended to achieve their maximum DPS. Multiple sim environments are used to test how they perform in various conditions. Is one the AoE king? Does one scale better with gear upgrades? Is one more bursty, and more reliant on big cooldowns? Below analyzes the data to find the strengths of each.

Simulation results were created with SimulationCraft
Using game data from Patch 10.1.7 WoW Dragonflight

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  • Best boss DPS (in perfect settings)Subtlety Rogue achieved 0.94% more maximum boss DPS than Survival Hunter when there was no movement or lag.
  • Best AoE DPS (in perfect settings)Subtlety Rogue achieved 4.08% more AoE DPS than Survival Hunter when there was no movement or lag.
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  • Best boss DPS (in realistic settings)Survival Hunter achieved 13.03% more maximum boss DPS than Subtlety Rogue when dealing with occasional movement, lag and crowd-control.
  • Least affected by movement (single-target)Survival Hunter’s single-target DPS was -85.63% less affected by increased movement compared to Subtlety Rogues.
  • Best gear scalingSurvival Hunter scaled better with increased item-levels, single-target DPS benefited 6.53% more from 422 ilvl to 446 compared to Subtlety Rogues.
  • Simplest GameplaySurvival Hunter has fewer damaging abilities which could indicate a simpler rotation.
  • DPS less dependant on big cooldownsSurvival Hunter’s DPS is less bursty, meaning it had more consistent damage. With 59.63% less difference in lowest and peak DPS during a fight when compared to Subtlety Rogues.

While the above highlights the DPS advantages between Subtlety Rogue and Survival Hunters, the DPS potential should not be the only factor in your decision. Ultimately, you should also consider the playstyle that you enjoy most while crushing it in Mythics+ and Raids!


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